Date: 11/16/2011 3:35 AM Title: Chapter 1
Awesome. I always wondered how that scene would have played out had Sarek been Jim's ... father in law? Whatever the Vulcans call it, they would have been tied as family, and it would have been much more moving. You did an excellent job. Thank you.
Date: 11/15/2011 7:46 PM Title: Chapter 1
Wonderful... such subtle changes only are needed...
And yes, it was very confusing what Sarek said here... they didn't even know at this stage that there was a body, or did they? For that to have happened, Kirk would have had to deliberately code a soft landing, not a burn-up, and Sarek couldn't have read that in his thoughts at this point because they hadn't melded yet. So it must have been recorded in the record tapes by Kirk, which Sarek said he had watched. But why? Why do it, and why record it?
And why do Vulcans need a dead body for Katra transfer to occur normally?
No, not a single suggestion. The movie makes it clear that they've GOT to go back to the Genesis planet, find Spock's presumably irradiated, rotting body, and haul it back to Vulcan. It always seemed a bit Frankenstein-like to me, because the chances of Spock being alive on that planet were supposedly all but non-existent. But as I said, I'm only messing with canon to a certain point, so if they need Spock's body, we'll go get Spock's body.
Date: 11/15/2011 6:47 PM Title: Chapter 1
You know what I love your version so much better...I love trek III ...and it is such a deeply profound moment. If you ever read the novelization..there is so much anger between Jim and Sarek...Jim pretty much told Sarek where to go..that you he didn't give a fuck about him or his people..and that he wasn't gonna leave him on Vulcan so he could wash his hands of him...even the comic adaptation has tension in the drawings of the characters...it was such a shame they didn't include it...wonderful dialogue..they even say that McCoy had an allergic reation from the transfer of katra..that is why he is reacting the way he is..
One last thing if Sarek had a daughter instead of a son..and if the dialogue had been this way instead...Sarek, your daughter meant more to me than you'll ever know....THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO DOUBT that they would be in love. But because Spock was a man...it is a shame that Jim never said to Sarek, that he truly loved him...period..on screen....it would have been glorious...
Oh, yeah. That whole "your son meant more to me than you'll ever know" line is SO DAMNED OBVIOUS. It positively screams "I'm in love with Spock." It's one of those moments like "Please, captain, not in front of the Klingons" in ST V, that gives away the whole truth of the relationship, even given the narrow constraints of mainstream movies. Glad you liked it.
Date: 11/15/2011 3:51 PM Title: Chapter 1
I was confused here must the body and katra holder go to seleya? Or did Sarek here the words of McCoy and realise what happened. That Spock's body is not in death
According to the movie, both must go to Mt. Seleya. I never understood it either, but I don't argue with canon (much).